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Saved: with Love or with Faith?![]()
From a videotaped sermon in 1991 by Fr. Athanasios Mytilineos (
2006) Source: https://www.facebook.com/1474496718/videos/1095328786145869
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What more do you want me to say? What more do you want me to tell you?
God have mercy on me here, with all the ugly things that abound -
worldwide and also in our Homeland... we have to literally battle with
beasts in order to expose these horrific situations....
Let me take a query sent to me by a concerned individual, among the many
that I have received, and read it to you:
“While studying a certain speech by an Anglican clergyman - Henry
Drummond - I read that man will be judged by God on the basis and
criterion of love, not faith. He bases this on the 25th
chapter in the Gospel of Matthew, where it says that the Lord during the
last judgment will be judging people on the basis of the works of love
that they had done in their lifetime - for example “I was naked and
you did not clothe Me” etc.... What is your opinion on this query?'
What is my opinion? Well, I will not give my own opinion; I will just
tell you what the truth is... And when we say “opinion” here, we mean
something like news analysts tell us about war matters: “I think....”
and “I think”... “I think”...
Well yes, justifiably so, because we are living human experiences, so we
speak in human terms, hence it is normal to say “I think...
But in this case, we will not insert “I think”;
instead, we will provide that
which is found in the dogmas of the Faith.
Of course the aforementioned clergyman is probably a Protestant -
an Anglican probably... Oh, sorry, it says it here, that
he is an Anglican clergyman,
therefore a Protestant. My
beloved, do not read foreign books, that is, foreign books on
religious matters.
Many are translations... very many.... I used to be able to read
something, but I don't read any of them any more... I don't wish to read
anything. They talk about
prayer, they talk about this and that...
And don't forget that this lust of ours for foreign things
(xenomania) has destroyed our contemporary theologians... It has
destroyed them, because they often take information from their
translations, frequently on a scientific level, resulting in our
theologians now being unrecognizable - nothing to do with Orthodox
theology. It's a shame - it's a degradation... Oh well, so be it...
So, He will apparently be judging us on the basis of love and not
faith?...
When we too say that “the criterion will be love”, then without
realizing it, we automatically relate ourselves to Ecumenism.
Because what does Ecumenism say?
Doesn't it talk about love and not about faith? What,
unfortunately, did Patriarch Athenagoras more or less do, who
– bareheaded – was an Ecumenist?
That’s what he said, when he
actually said, “We don't need dogmas, put them away, in a cupboard...”
- which had even been published many years ago... (and now post mortem
he is referred to as... “the blessed Athenagoras”?)
Also this other statement of his: “Love is necessary for us. Why?
Because the dogma hinders you from approaching the Protestant and the
Roman Catholic (the Papist) - whereas love assists you.” My
beloved, this reeks of Ecumenism...
Now the so-called “loveism” (“agapismos”) was also created here in
Greece – this “agapismos” is an international thing. Does the term
agapismos remind you of anything? I don't wish to say anything more. A
book has even been published. I have the book. And the title?
“Agapismos”... Its subtitle: 'Love
International’ - Just like one says “Socialist International”,
“Communist International”, likewise there is “Love International”.
This, my beloved, reeks of Ecumenism.
Because apparently “we will fix everything, on the basis of
love”. This element is also very supportive (in the preceding query that
we had) of the masons. Very
much so. That's what they want:
that the dogmas must be put aside.
And yet, my beloved, they are probably unable to perceive that the
entire Gospel is hidden behind what Christ has said.
And so I pose the question: If I do give or show love to other people
but I myself am a fornicator, will I be saved?
Doesn't the Apostle Paul say, “Do not be deceived - neither
fornicators, nor adulterers, nor effeminates...”
(Notice he mentions the idolaters after the fornicators...
- but I'll explain this to the children next Sunday – God willing – we
have a certain order for our lessons).
So, “Neither adulterers, nor... nor.. nor... shall inherit the
realm of God...” and he
also mentions some other examples. In
other words, homosexuals, fornicators, adulterers - these three...
anyway... let me not say anything more here.... shall not inherit the
realm of God...
Have you any idea how many immoral people have a good heart and are
philanthropists? Take the
masons for example, who say they do good deeds.
Will they go to God’s realm just because they have love - if they
have love? I ask you, is it
ever possible? Is it ever possible?
Well then, someone is telling the truth and someone is lying;
because according to what that author says, we shall be saved
with love, while the Apostle Paul says that by doing immoral things you
will not enter the realm of God. Then is the Apostle Paul lying? There
must be something here.
The entire Gospel resides
behind these words of Christ.
Faith
is that which will provide the criterion for our entry into the realm of
God, but not only faith: it will also be love.
We can't isolate these things. BOTH faith AND love.
Love is the deed, and faith is the theory.
And when we say “theory” we do not imply the expression of “acting and
theorizing”; we mean man’s stance –
that’s what faith is – man’s stance before the God-human Person of Jesus
Christ. And the Gospel and
the Evangelist John clearly tell us, that if you do not accept the
God-human Person of Christ, you will not be saved.
You won’t be saved. He who does not have the Son - to quote the
words of the Evangelist - does not have the Father either, and therefore
does not have God.
So what are they talking about, when they say that with love we will be
saved?
It is very possible that this is the last heresy to exist.
Why do I say the last? Because it is the heresy promoted by
Ecumenism, which carries all the previous heresies that have existed in
History.
A question had been posed a couple of years ago... I keep them with me –
all of them - on Ecumenism, and I would have liked to tell you many more
things.... but for now, let's say I managed to somewhat respond to the
posed question of what is being said about Ecumenism.
It is the last heresy of History - Ecumenism.
It projects love as bait, but it contains all the heresies that
have ever existed - and not only the heresies that have existed from the
time of Christ, but also the heresies that existed before Christ, in the
Jewish sphere; for example, we have the Sadducees. In fact, they are
coincidentally called 'heresies', albeit the word 'heresy' there does
not have the same meaning. It has the meaning of “group”, and not of a
deviation from the faith. «… the heresy of the Sadducees...',
says the New Testament, etc...
But, in reality, they did have a deviation from the faith.
When it says 'the Sadducees believed the... and the...and
the... and the...' – we realize
that only five books from the Old Testament were believed by them;
however, they rejected the prophets.
Well, what more do we need? Or
the Essenes, etcetera, etcetera....
It was the Pharisees who had the upright faith. The Pharisees.
It is another thing, that they didn’t act accordingly;
but the faith of the Pharisees was correct.
That is why Christ had said – specifically about the Pharisees:
“Whatever they tell you,
do it. Whatever they do, you should not do it.”'
Therefore, since Ecumenism is an all-embracing heresy, I ask you: is it,
or is it not the “last heresy”? Why?
Because they have left nothing out of it. It has engulfed every other
heresy.
Also, the expression “last heresy” is not mine. It is also used by
Father Justin Popovich: “it is the greatest heresy that ever existed”,
because it has included everything, and it projects love as its bait.
Just like when we put limpets on a fishing hook, or shellfish, or
tiny crabs there on the hook, and then we cast the line in order to
catch fish...
Obviously, we don't merely sit there in order to feed the fish; it is to
catch the fish... That's the whole deception of these people. And
behind this deception... well, the only thing that these people
can’t be seen as, is religious – they are definitely not
religious. Behind this deception of Ecumenism is masonry, which is
idolatry.
And I have one more thing to tell you - the Apostle Paul says it - and I
will close with this, because time has already flown.
When the antichrist comes, even though all these things constitute the
vehicle of the antichrist, you might ask: “And the antichrist himself?
What will he know? Will he be a fallen Christian, or an
ecumenist? Will he be a Jew - in
the sense that he will believe in the Old Testament only? What will he
believe - when all of them will be serving the antichrist? Will he be an
idolater?”
Will you believe him? He will be none of the above - absolutely
nothing. He will only be projecting the divinity of his person. Nothing
else.
The Apostle Paul says this to the Thessalonians (2 Thess.2:4):
“... that the opposing one who places himself above every
so-called god or respected one, so that he will seat himself in the
temple of God, to prove that he is God.”
What does 'respected one' mean? It
means an object that is worthy of respect.
For example, the Buddha - a person who is already respected by
several millions of people. Muhammad likewise.... etcetera and so on...
Or Zeus, for example, assuming Greek idolatry is revived.
He will hunt down all of these religions.
These events will lead the antichrist to emerge – the hunting down of
all the others – in order to show that the only God is the antichrist.
Do you want me to show you even more? Does
the Apostle Paul write these things, or doesn’t
he write them? «… so that
he will seat himself in the temple of God, to prove that he is God
' – says the Apostle Paul very clearly.
I think our Christians should never ignore all these things. Never. They
should be regarded as alive before them, studying them, but not becoming
alarmed... be careful, please don't be alarmed, don't be alarmed at all.
Have in you the peace of God, but also be aware of what it is all about,
so that we won't get carried
away - into all these terrible tentacles of terrible Hades and Hell.
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Article created : 14-10-2025
Last update on: 14-10-2025